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Told Him Ten Times? Stop Saying It Louder

Module 3 · Crew Quality · Play 6 of 10

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The problem in one breath

Same guy, every job: nails left all over the driveway. You've told him a dozen times — nice, then not nice, then flat-out mad — and the next roof, there they are again. Saying it a thirteenth time, louder, isn't going to do it.

Why it happens

When a correction bounces, the reflex is to say it again — same words, more volume. But he heard you the first time; this isn't a hearing problem. Something else is blocking it, and yelling doesn't touch it. A correction that keeps bouncing is a sign to go find out why, not to crank the volume.

The play

There are only three reasons a correction won't stick. Check them in order — the first one you hit is usually your answer. Then two moves that unstick it either way.

  1. Is it clear? Could somebody film the exact thing you're asking for? "Be more careful with the yard" — a phone can't film that; it's a feeling, not a move. "Run the magnet over the whole yard before you pull the truck out" — that, a phone can film. If you can't point a camera at it, he can't do it — he doesn't really know what "it" is. Turn it into one filmable move first. That filmable move is the fix half of say what's wrong and hand him the fix (M3-02) — check whether you ever handed him one.

  2. Can he do it? If it's clear and it's still not happening, ask whether he's even able. Does he have the skill, the tool, the time? The foreman who keeps skipping the tailgate debrief may have no clue how to run one — nobody ever showed him. The nail guy may be sharing one magnet that lives on the other truck. That's a training gap or a tool gap, not attitude, and no amount of "do better" fixes a missing tool. Hand him the skill or the tool and the problem's gone.

  3. Does he want to? Only once it's clear and he can do it is it really a won't — and here's the trap: you can't move him with what moves you. Guys run on different things: more money, respect in front of the crew, home by five on Fridays, being the go-to man you hand the hard jobs. Watch what he lights up about and what he digs his heels in on, then line the ask up with that. The crew lead who never returns homeowner calls might move the day those calls become "you're the face of this company" instead of one more chore.

  4. Say what you actually mean out loud. A correction can land like a threat — he's quietly hearing "do the guys still respect me? am I about to get cut?" With his guard up like that, nothing gets through. So say your real intent flat out: "This isn't about your job — you're solid, I just want to kill these callbacks." Take the fear off the table and he can finally hear the point. The installer who shuts down and gets defensive every time is a man hearing a threat you never meant to send.

  5. Catch him doing it right. If the only time you open your mouth is to point at a miss, he tunes you out to protect himself — you've turned into noise. Break it: spend a few days calling out the small wins and handing out zero corrections. "That yard's spotless — that's it." Once he's not bracing for a hit every time you walk up, the behavior starts moving again.

Do this this week

Take the one correction that keeps bouncing and, before you say it again, run it down the three questions on paper: Could a phone film what I'm asking for? Does he have the skill, tool, and time? Is it really that he won't? Whichever one it fails is the thing to fix — not the volume.

The tool

No spreadsheet — a card for the truck, run before you say it the eleventh time:

WHY IT'S NOT STICKING — before you say it again

The correction: ________________________________________

1. IS IT CLEAR?      Could somebody film the exact thing I'm asking for?
      "Be careful" -> no.   "Magnet the whole yard before you pull out" -> yes.
      Not filmable -> rewrite it into one move you could point a phone at.

2. CAN HE DO IT?     Does he have the skill, the tool, the time?
      No -> training gap or tool gap, not attitude. Hand him the missing piece.

3. DOES HE WANT TO?  Clear + he can, still not happening -> it's motivation.
      Find what moves HIM — money, respect, Fridays home, the go-to man —
      and line the ask up with that, not with what moves you.

Then: say your real intent out loud ("this isn't about your job").
      And catch him doing it right for a few days — zero corrections.

If your crew is 1099

Careful — steps 3, 4, and 5 are employee management. What moves a man, how his guard comes down, whether he gets praised on a Tuesday: that's his own company's business, and reaching into it is the kind of control that can cost a sub his standing as a sub. Watch me, then I watch you (M3-04) spells that whole warning out. With a sub you don't diagnose the won't at all — you hold the delivered work up against the spec you both signed, and a crew that keeps missing it is a hiring call, not a man to motivate on the roof. Steps 1 and 2 stay fair either way: a spec clear enough to film, worked by a crew that has the skill and the tools, is just a good agreement.

The one thing

Do this this week

Take the one correction that keeps bouncing and, before you say it again, run it down the three questions on paper: Could a phone film what I'm asking for? Does he have the skill, tool, and time? Is it really that he won't? Whichever one it fails is the thing to fix — not the volume.

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Same fire

You've told him ten times and nothing changes

All the fires →

Fixed this?

While you work on him, put the standard on paper so the rest of the crew doesn't drift with him.

The fire right behind it is usually Callbacks and sloppy work.

These plays are how we run a shop — they are not legal, tax, or accounting advice. Rules change by state and by contract, so before you act on the legal-sounding parts, run them past your own attorney or accountant. It's your business, and what you do with any of this is your call and your responsibility.

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